Turn and repent

Saturday was a really long day, went to St Andrew's with my family for some talk by Prof Alister McGrathon the "New Atheism". Was more of a response to points brought up by books that have become popular in recent years such as "The God Delusion". He gave a very fair discussion of the arguments of both sides, even putting down points Christians would rather be promoted.

After service had dinner with Ivan at around sixth avenue and discussed about some major stuff. After we were done with dinner the discussion carried on over at rail mall wayy into the morning, by the time we were done it was like 3+am. So much has been going on and most are simply unaware. After everything I decided to do something I learnt from my parents. Check up on the people, sometimes you find out how much shit is swept under the carpet.

Testimonies from people:

"Thanks so much for your efforts on this web site, I appreciate it more than you know!
I am in absolute agreement with you regarding the entire Lakeland/TB debacle. Simply put, it is demonic. I was into the new-age practices in the late 60’s-early 70’s, even though I believed scripture…I was not born again. I wrote my testimony after seeing Lakeland and put it on http://www.sapphirethrone.com .(my life was very affected by kundalini experiences) I wrote the following because I just found some information that shows how TB’s “opening of portals” that was announced during his “commission” is not in any way original or unique to him, it is a practice that has been used by high level occult practitioners.

Since Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson are both caught up in the realm of deceiving spirits, they can only reinforce TB’s behavior.TB’s declaration of “opening up the stargate portals to the third heaven” has absolutely nothing to do with God or His heavenly realms…it is based on previous declarations by high level occultist. His “angel” connections are not God’s angels, they are familiar spirits and demonic forces. What he does and declares is UTTERLY SATANIC…not “just a little eccentric.” The opening up of these “portals” that TB is engaged in is activated by his own soul power/soul energy called kundalini in Hinduism. There is a lot on the web about it as it is practiced by those in the occult/new age. This web site covers it quite well: newchristian.org.uk/kundalini.html It gives a list of some the symptoms.

Another good article that sheds some real light on TB’s “anointing” is by Mishel at deceptionbytes.com; Todd Bentley, The Fires of Kundalini, and the Demon Samael. Quite an eye opener.
My own experiences with this in the past was released through meditation, and opened up doors to the fallen spirit realm. As believers, we are meant to meditate on the Word of God, on His attributes, but are never supposed to leave our mind “blank” and receptive as Bill Johnson teaches in his “supernatural training.” He and his wife are fascinated by the “mystical” and “mystical experiences.” In his book, “When Heaven Invades Earth,” he has artfully twisted the definition of what an “anointing” is, the character and nature of the Holy Spirit, and the very attitude we are to have before a Holy God. His page titled “My Story-Glorious But Not Pleasant,” is a TEXTBOOK RENDITION of the kundalini awakening, replete with “unexplainable power began to pulsate through my body, seemingly just shy of electrocution.” He goes on to explain how it was like a thousand volts of electricity flowing through his body; his arms and legs shot out in silent explosions as if something was released through his hands and feet, and the more he tried to stop it, the worse it got. He declared that it was the most overwhelming experience of his life…”it was raw power…it was God.” (So sorry to say, Bill, it was not the God of the Bible, the Alpha and Omega.) None of this surprises me, as he states that “our hunger for Him in part must be seen in our lustful pursuit of spiritual gifts. That is His command!” I know exactly what my Bible says about spiritual gifts, but Bill sure can twist what is really said. This book is a sad commentary on why the church is in the state it is, as it promotes the attitude of a demanding, petulant child throwing a fit if it doesn’t get its “experience.”

I am afraid there are enough immature believers reading this nonsense that are ensnared in his humanistic sophistry, and they may very well be sincere about seeking the heart of God. But one of the NAR points of indoctrination is cleverly inserted in his page on Pursue an Encounter. He declares that if God is moving somewhere else other than where he lives, he must go! If someone else is being used by God more than him, he must humbly ask for prayer with the laying on of hands. “Some may ask, “Why can’t God touch me were I am?” “He can. But He usually moves in ways that emphasize our need for others, rather than adding to our independence. Wise men have always been willing to travel.”
When we add that bit of NAR indoctrination to the TB “highly contagious anointing,” we have quite a package of deception being spread through the church. We have controlling, manipulative “leaders” that are void of discernment, and are entrenched with false teaching promoting “angels” which are nothing more than familiar spirits… they teach occult, mystical techniques to the unaware who are opening themselves up to the realm of the occult, believing they are being “led by the Holy Spirit.” I have found that most of the people who are alarmed by this deception are believers who acknowledge the gifts of the spirit, and are used by God to bless others through various gifts. Those that discern love the Word, listen to the lead of the Spirit, pursue God HIS way…through humility, repentence, prayer and fasting, and a contrite heart; the elements of true revival.
Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me"

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"You want facts about the dangers involved in the NAR movement? Let me give you one from my own experience. A young woman that I know has been a fan of Bill Johnson and co and, having been brought up in the charasmatic movement, has always been hungry to experience the supernatural. As the prophetic and apostolic “ministries” of the NAR-oriented churches has spread into even the churches in my remote part of the world, it has resulted in fleshly utterings, supposedly in the name of God.

This young woman received a “word from the Lord”, specifically telling her that she would be in another country in December, 2008, enjoying studies at a prestigous Christian college, one that she desperately wanted to attend. You can imagine her joy at receiving this information directly from God, a loving promise from a kind Father who gave her exactly what she wanted.

Guess what? She’s still here in this remote part of the world, devastated that she is not where God told her she’d be. Before people criticise her gullibility, she was set up by a false system that encourages people to speak on behalf of God, as though speaking out in itself is a way of glorifying God, even if you get it wrong, because you are practicing to become a “better” prohet or apostle.

Some of her family still hangs on every word that Bill Johnson utters but that must hurt her, knowing that his ilk have been responsible for allowing what happened to her in the first place.

Bill Johnson. If you are a true leader of men, start reigning in your false teachers and repent of your waywardness. I know that it would take a big man to do that and I think that you’re locked into the machine now but please, prove me wrong, and lead your followers back to a biblically based, expensive grace, daily-dying-to-self type of sacrificial Christian living, characterised by Christ-likeness, holiness and Christian character. Have nothing to do with false signs and wonders and false prohecies. Please."

Quotations from places:

"No longer is holiness and devouring the Word the primary means of developing a prophetic character. No, you just guess whatever pops into your head after tuning yourself into “the” prophetic. This is no different than the New Age approach to the Force, or Stream of Consciousness. It ultimately sidesteps true propheticness and creates prophecy slot machines."

"Playing guessing games with the souls and minds of men and women should be a frightening and sobering proposition for us and is serious business to God. This makes me think back to Jeremiah 23:16 where the Lord said that these kinds of prophets “speak visions from their own minds and not from the mouth of the Lord.” In other words, they just guess or shoot out whatever they think is fitting or “might be” from God."

"It’s an unsure thing to guess. To guess presupposes doubt. Just because guessing sometimes proves right doesn’t give us any luxury to indulge in it when prophesying to an open heart. Doubt is all the more incentive to keep silent until God makes something sure. Oswald Chambers says, “When in doubt, don’t!” I agree, and so does Paul the apostle. That’s why he said what he said in Romans 14:23."

"Romans 12:6 in my NIV reads, “We have different gifts according to the grace given us. If a man’s gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith.” I looked at 4 different translations and they all say the same thing, in essence. The basic idea of this particular verse is that the one prophesying should not go any further than the boundry of his faith, i.e. if it hasn’t been made sure in his inner man that he is to issue a word, then he is to go no further than the faith that is given."

"When you begin to open your mouth and speak things in a prophetic fashion, yet you are not absolutely convinced of its origins as proceeding from God, you numb your discernement so that the next time its easier to say what is not of God, then its easier after that and so on, and so on until you finally cannot distinguish the difference between your soulish nature and God."

I could go on forever, it's been hours and in a short while the sun will be rising again. Not tired in the slightest, inside me just burns, burns, burns...

How did I actually stay on a year through this? Thank God for His grace that I did not yield...

Should have done this ages ago. People are just blindly going with the flow oblivious to what has been happening. Does anyone have any idea what happened to the adults? How many left? How all but one of the entire equipping team, that trained people in the Word of God, (ACE and all) left? Last night Ivan said surely people had made noise about it, surely someone spoke up if things were going out of line. I know many did, but as i thought about it, what happened to the youth? Some said they felt uncomfortable with it as it started and all, but how many of us prayed, searched, meditated? I mean us leaders. What was the lamp unto our feet and the light unto our path?

Oh Lord, forgive me for being too polite for too long, it's high time to flee from this place and for the sake of those I love, I shall not go quietly...